meeting date: 17 jan 2006 attending: Todd Westerhoff, Arpad Muranyi, Bob Ross, Mike LaBonte, Ken Willis, Ian Dodd, Walter Katz ------------- Review of ARs: AR: Todd contact Xilinx about DesignCon IBIS summit - need to contact again AR: Todd prepare overview presentation for IBIS summit - nearly done AR: Arpad prepare technical presentation for IBIS summit - TBD AR: Arpad send private copy of BIRD100.2 for group review - Done, posted to IBIS now AR: All review the BIRD - a few AR: Mike cleanup website - in progress AR: Mike finish documentation examples. - TBD ------------- Mike organizing archive by date/sender - Organization by subject would be nice - look in futures for example of index files Arpad will be sending new library this week. - Implement in Verilog fixes found in VHDL Ken's feedback on BIRD 100.2 - IBIS3 limited in structures it can model - Need to know what to implement in the simulator - Proposal: define the macro library as an IBIS standard - Finite value-added subset to the standard - for both VHDL and Verilog - we have put a lot of work into this - Ian would like to define a preferred subset of AMS - encourage people to do analog short term - would like to move to digital - Should we delay the BIRD? No - Are we standardizing the building block library or the language? - First define the language features used - Not going to stop anyone from utilizing full AMS - Even with the language features that happen to be used in the library today, many more building blocks can be created. - Macromodels are a little clunky - AMS, even in analog mode, doesn't have as many limitations - macros should not be part of ANSI spec - Does make a good example of how to use AMS - May need a few more constructs not yet used - Should have a syntax document stating what is legal - Easier to simply present the library as a guide - Keep this out of the IBIS spec - Do we need a test suite? - Needs to be in the IBIS spec - separate spec like ICM - Do we hold BIRD100.2? - A future BIRD can modify it - don't hold the vote on BIRD100.2 ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 24 jan 2006